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Craigslisting: READER CHALLENGE: Let's form a militia

  • kslane · 10 months ago
    Definitely working on this as we speak.
  • worldoftoday · 10 months ago
    good job! -A.L.
  • kslane · 10 months ago
    Anybody else get a response yet? It's been a full day now, and nothing...
  • Dan · 10 months ago
    That sounds kinda dangerous and really illegal....
    Good luck take pictures!
  • worldoftoday · 10 months ago
    please help, Dan
    -A.L.
  • that guy · 10 months ago
    DONE AND DONE
  • Dina · 10 months ago
    This is gonna be fun!!
  • Nick · 10 months ago
    sent one in. woooo
  • adrianfanguy · 10 months ago
    say NO to drugs!!!!!!!
    except heroin for the pain
  • Jon · 10 months ago
    Are you ok? You have me worried....
  • adrianfanguy · 10 months ago
    i dont need your pity jon, but thanks
  • Patrick · 10 months ago
    Anyone get a response yet? I'm still waiting. I NEED TO FIND OUT IF I GET ACCEPTED!!!Pa
  • Z · 10 months ago
    How is the guy being racist? He even says, "Must not belong to any hate groups, anyone of any race is eligible"... how is he being racist? What, because he said "Mexican drug cartels"? Well maybe... they are Mexican. And as for being sexist? So he said, "(and a few women)", maybe he doesn't expect to take on a lot of women to go battle a drug cartel. Doesn't really seem ALL that outrageous to me.

    Now, I'm not saying this isn't a strange request to find in an ad, but I don't think that if the guy's home is being overrun with the drug trade, that he's out of line to want something done about it. He said, "The owners of these homes were told by the Sheriff dept. not to explore their own property because they might come across... thugs who would surely kill them." Told not to explore THEIR OWN PROPERTY! That sounds to me like something WORTH getting "up in arms" over!

    I'm just saying, if the guy is for real, then he seems to have a legitimate gripe; so whether you are inclined to support the guy or not, I don't see the need to screw with him. If you screw with him, you're in essence supporting the other side. Which seems pretty low, to me.

    Before you write him, stop for ONE MINUTE and put yourself in his shoes. What if that was your home? If you'd support the people taking over this guy's home, then if the day comes that someone invades your property or your home -- say, someone breaks into your house to take or harm what's yours -- then you'd better just sit down and take it, because you don't feel that it's important for this man to protect what's his.

    So, come on, even if you don't support the guy, don't hurt him further by undermining his desire to right a wrong.
  • Jon · 10 months ago
    Perhaps you misread the part about him wanting to start a MILITIA. Hello? Does that register?
  • Wilberforce · 10 months ago
    I think this "Z" character is our militia man. I mean, DUDE, this is CRAIGSLISTING.
  • worldoftoday · 10 months ago
    He's right, guys I put myself in his shoes (combat boots, actually) and I immediately had the urge to form an armed militia dedicated to vigilante justice.
    -A.L.
  • Zed · 10 months ago
    Zing!
  • Joe · 10 months ago
    Hey Z hold my coffee for me. Now what time is it? BURN!!!
  • Todd · 10 months ago
    My application for my persona of a discharged (and slightly off his rocker) war veteran seeking to dispense justice has been sent in. Here's to all the free weed we get after we run out the druggies!
  • Zed · 10 months ago
    My name is Aleksndr, a displaced veteran from the independence war for Lichtenia (now a small town in Russia). Strangely enough, I look remarkably like the people who fought in the french resistance movement. My best friend Sergi the Tall was shot in the buttocks, and died in my arms. To prevent this from ever happening again, I received Red Cross CPR and First Aid certification. My weapons experience is limited -- only a few homemade mortars and captured heavy cal sniper rifles. I now own 15 guns, and one truck. Please let me in, I've always wanted to learn Mexican.
  • MOK · 9 months ago
    Wait a few years and move to America.You"ll be able to learn Mexican because we"ll all be speaking it.
  • Patrick · 10 months ago
    We have been found out, FYI:

    His response to me:

    "Please tell Adrian I would like to nominate your fake email as the best by far. The multi colored graphs were just too much. Carry on traitor."
  • kslane · 10 months ago
    What? Damn it all to hell! So my experience as a Revolutionary War reenactment actor wasn't enough of a qualification?

    But if you seriously made graphs, you win, hands down.
  • Patrick · 10 months ago
    I asked how he found us out, waiting for response.
  • Wilberforce · 10 months ago
    How do you make a "fake email?"
  • nicole · 10 months ago
    It sounds like a diverse collection of discussion topics:

    Extreme medical and biohazard situations
    Gardening

    Maybe the women are invited to share gardening tips.

    what a doob. he's going to get himself and 500 other losers killed by drug lords.
  • militia guy · 10 months ago
    And you would be rooting For the drug cartel right Nicole? Question for you: How would you deal with this if the land you owned was being occupied by illegal alien Drug Cartels carrying automatic weapons? It’s easy to brand someone as a loser but you have no solutions to this problem and you have taken the side of the corrupt Drug Cartels.

    Name calling in itself is childish and immature and proves you have nothing intelligent to say on the subject.
  • militia guy · 10 months ago
    how fitting your moderator deleted my post about the realities of life in mexico. Ignorance is bliss when you are as blind as a bat.
  • Jon · 10 months ago
    You're really special...
  • Pat · 10 months ago
    I think your examples about the "realities of life in mexico" are a little selective
    you make it out to seem like everyone in mexico wants to come to this country to steal our jobs and our money and violently take over our land to make drugs
    saying that these are "realitites of life in mexico" is like using the KKK and white supremacists as examples of the "realities of life" in the United States
    you're using a radical minority to unfairly define an entire population (aka a stereotype)

    and can you please stop resorting to the standard "if you're not with us, you're against us" response? ie "commie/liberal" and "you would be rooting for the drug cartel right?"
    it's just a easy and ignorant way to disregard anything that may be contrary to your views and doesn't prove you right at all
    and if you're worried about having anything "intelligent to say on the subject" you might want to start with yourself since you're doing a pretty good job of name-calling and accusing everyone who disagrees with you
  • rebeliconoclast · 10 months ago
    Pat,

    Don't even try to argue with him. He's a delusional, lonely old man that will refuse to listen to logic and reason. Besides, he's pretty sure he can "dig up some MICROFILM" to support all of his claims. Microfilm....I rest my case.
  • _ · 10 months ago
    I'd like to take a kind of a poll, here: I wonder... do ANY of you... EVER... consider how another person feels? Because everywhere I look, everywhere I go, I see nothing but empathy. All any of you do is laugh at the pain of others. I'm not talking about this site, and the pranks, I'm talking about the fucking world. I really would like to know, do any of you give a damn about anyone besides your own self? I don't mean your family or your friends, because they are just an extension of your SELF. Does any of you fucking care for one second about how you treat people who aren't YOU? At work, at school, at the mall, in traffic, wherever? Do you more often say "fuck them" or do you treat someone with kindness? Oh, you say fuck them, don't you? You damn well know you do. Fuck I'm so fed up with humanity.
  • rebeliconoclast · 10 months ago
    I'm considering how people of Hispanic heritage feel to be called "violent gang members" of which the majority are "bad for this country" and should be shipped home because it doesn't matter if they suffer as long as WE don't suffer. I'm considering how people labeled as "minorities" feel to have their accomplishments undermined because "they probably went to college at the taxpayer's expense". I'm considering how the lonely, outcasts that this dangerous man convinces to join him will feel when they find themselves further isolated from society...but this time with weapons...through his manipulations and propoganda.

    It's my opinion (and I'm in now way affiliated with this site...just a reader) that if you don't like it, you don't have to read it. Might I suggest: http://www.lisafrank.com/
  • rebeliconoclast · 10 months ago
    Also, I feel compelled to point out...just for your general knowledge...that empathy means the exact OPPOSITE of what you intended in your posting. If all you saw was empathy, then you would have everyone caring about how everyone felt. I believe the word you were searching for was apathy. Just to avoid confusion in the future.
  • Dmizzle · 10 months ago
    ^^^I'm sending you an e-hug^^^
  • worldoftoday · 10 months ago
    Shoot, my blog has a flame war.

    -A.L.
  • militia guy · 10 months ago
    Hey pat did you every live in mexico? I lived with people who did for over 4 years. There is a good reason why the mexicans are fleeing their country and it’s not just about economics. Liberal people in general don’t even have the stomach or the ability to take an unbiased look into the crime world in mexico. Unbelievably there are even people serving in the US Navy that will not look at these, or have any interest in these hard facts.

    Everyone here has two choices pat, knowing there are illegal aliens from mexico walking around with automatic weapons on property in Livermore they do not own. Choice 1 is to have no opinion at all, which is understandable to some degree. 2) People can take a stand and figure out that if the US citizens in Livermore are at risk (reminder here the US Navy should protect the lives of all US citizens) by simply walking their the land they own this is wrong, and any action one takes whether it be talking, typing or trying to form a militia all aspects should be focused on correcting the problem so the US citizens will not be at risk for merely walking their own property. 3) You can defend the Drug Cartels (this includes everyone on this site) but these people fall into one of two categories the first is they are a thug gang members and want the Cartels to get stronger. The second is that the defenders have no idea how grave/dangerous the situation really is this is what you people are.

    I have studied crime in mexico and the impacts on life in both mexico and America and I know for a fact if you guys had a clear picture of what any of the Drug Cartels do you would be truly sickened just by the knowledge of having them here on American soil. The links I posted are not selective they are a very strong indicator of how the mexican people live, I suspect this is why they were removed so quickly. If Nicole (or any liberal woman) knew for one second what becomes of many 15-year-old girls in mexico (and this has happed to US citizens that have been kidnapped) at the hands of the Drug Cartel I bet she would breakdown and cry or be sick to her stomach, I cannot print it here because it will be flagged.

    Stereotype are sometimes proven facts, that melting pot junk we were taught in school has no merit what you look at crime stats from an unbiased perspective. The liberal media works over time to make it appear as though all races commit the same about of crime. This is not reality not has it been, and when the FBI collects crime stats they merge all the Hispanic crimes with the ones committed by whites. This falsely inflates the white category to make it appear as though the white people commit more crime then they actually do. Every Hispanic gang member is categorized as white if they are caught committing a crime when the FBI takes yearly stats for police depts.

    Again not all Hispanics are bad for this country, but from and economic standpoint 90 of the 15 million illegals use more tax money then they give, on top of that they send home some 25 billion every year to mexico, this further hurts our economic situation.

    I have taken the time to educate many people on the realities of life in mexico, the people who lived there don’t need this education, it’s normally only the liberal white folks who fall short of the mark. There is a mexican woman on another blog I can put you in touch with she knows life in mexico really well, she grew up there and almost everyday she posts more stats about the crime and shortcomings in mexico. She wants all illegals to go home and unlike the people on this blog she knows the realities of life in mexico firsty hand because she lived there. Just ask me and will be happy to put you in touch with her so she can set you straight. Again ignorance is bliss this woman is working hard to help America and you should too.
  • Pat · 10 months ago
    I give up trying to rationalize with you
    you're right
    everything you say is correct
    all Mexicans are out to ruin this country
    everyone who disagrees with your views is a supporter of the Mexican Mafia
    the whole world (including most of this country's citizens) hates the United States and wants to see it completely destroyed
    the US Navy is totally ignoring what is going on inside this country (your words) (side note: what??? this reference is utterly random. What does the US Navy have to do with anything? Do you mean Army? Do you even know the difference? Hint: Navy = Sea)

    ps - stereotypes are, by definition, NEVER proven facts. otherwise they would be FACTS and not STEREOTYPES

    also - "every Hispanic gang member is categorized as white" by the FBI? What? Please explain how that makes sense on ANY LEVEL OF RATIONALITY. I highly doubt that the FBI is censoring their data to be politically correct. By the way, if you are able to explain this phenomenon, I invite you to include some reputable sources. Only then will I accept your arguments.

    I've also noticed how your posts have changed from attacking Mexicans to attacking Hispanics as a whole, and I think that's great. Pretty soon we'll just be talking about all non-whites. I look forward to that debate.

    It sickens me that you've "taken time to educate many people on the realities of life in Mexico." Have you ever lived in Mexico? No, but you "lived with people who did for over four years." That's great. I've lived with people who have been female for over 4 years, but you don't see me educating people about the realities of being female (I'll tell you why - it's because I have no idea what it's like). You can consider this an invitation to post a link to that blog you mentioned.

    If you haven't noticed by now, I've changed my mind about arguing with you. I think you're a narrow-minded, intolerant, insensitive, and pompous bigot and I will happily invalidate you for as long as you'd like to play this game. Also, before you go around insulting people about their intelligence, I suggest you learn basic spelling and grammar for yourself; it might help your cause a bit. If you'd like, I can go through and proofread all of your posts and notify you of the numerous mistakes.

    Finally, I'd like to offer my sincere apologies to Adrian for turning his comment board into an arena for irrelevant political arguments. I know it would be far more practical to do this on another site, but it really bothered me when this guy decided to start personally attacking all the posters and commentors on here. I really appreciate your work and think you're totally hilarious. Please don't let people like this ruin your creativity.
  • militia guy · 10 months ago
    If you don’t think illegal alien Drug Cartels should not be driven off American soil immediately you do not support this country, period.

    I did not say all mexicans ruin this country you said that. I said 90 percent of all illegals from the southern border are a huge drain on America. I went on to say about 50 percent of anchor babies are also bad for the country; many join gangs and commit crime. The majority of legal Hispanics in this country cause no harm at all excluding the anchor babies who are in the eye of the law citizens too. But remember there are over 12 million illegals here now that is a big number of people who are dragging the country down.

    Mexico is a slum not only because of the poor economic situation there the lack of education and more importantly the macho culture are major factors. When illegals run across the border at night they bring their often-unrefined culture with them and this creates a big financial problem for taxpayers. The legal immigration process ensures America is not flooded with too many people who need more help then they can pay for in taxes, this is vital to keep a strong vibrant economy.

    Not everyone who disagrees with my views about the Drug Cartels are complete haters of America. I would not expect normal citizens to want to risk their lives to root these people out. But if people want to comment about these cartels they should at the minimum know how dangerous they really are. The people on this blog like I said before the people on this blog “ have no idea how grave/dangerous the situation really is”. Pat how many hours have you spent reading about these Mexican Drug Cartels, or watching documentaries about how they operate? What do you know to be a hard fact about these cartels? I’m betting you know almost nothing, and yet you think its fun to send fake emails to someone who wants to put a stop to it.


    The reference to the Navy was for the other blogger, he told me he was in the Navy, if this is true the oath he took to protect this country may not mean much to him. Yes I know Navy = sea and I also know a fair amount about ICBMs, HARM missles, DU munitions, and some bio stuff too.


    Stereotypes

    1) Most black people are thieves.

    2) The vast majority of gang members in Ca are Hispanic.

    3) Most high value embezzlement cases involve white people.

    4) Black people are far more likely to commit crimes against whites than whites against blacks.


    5) Hate crime charges are almost never brought against suspects that are not white.

    If your moderator will give me permission I will post the links you need to read to know these as facts not Stereotypes.

    Level of rationality? Sounds fantastic right that the FBI would do such a defying thing. Just drop this into Google “FBI crime stats white Hispanic” and take your pick, if this is not enough proof for you send an email to the FBI and I’m sure they will give you some lame excuse for why they are doing this, the bottom line is they do it.

    Go to the Press Democrat online, go to the rant and raves comments section and look for the user name mreiman. Ask her who she is, where she grew up and why she posts so many negative articles/links about mexico. Be forewarned Pat some of the folks on here will blindside you with many facts and you will not have much to say in defense of your views. If you spend even 15 hours on this blog chatting with others you will be fully educated about the situation, I promise it will be and eye opening experience.

    As far as the typos go, I know I usually catch most of them but many I see after I have posted, and this forum does not allow me to edit after I have posted. In the grand scheme of things this does not really bother me too much, I know you are getting the message even if I happen to leave out a word here or there. As far as punctuation goes I do the best I can. I try not to take up too much space within my brain because we all have only a limited capacity, so I only remember the really important things.
  • militia guy · 10 months ago
  • rebeliconoclast · 10 months ago
    Pat,

    The "US Navy" comment was directed against me. Apparently, I'm betraying my oath to this country by refusing to lend credibility to someone that wants to form some paramilitary group and take justice into his own hands...without (so far) a single, decent shred of evidence that justice even needs to be served in this case. I don't think Militia Guy realizes that it's people like him that scare the living daylights out of law enforcement in this country (or maybe he doesn't remember Waco, Ruby Ridge, the Unabomber, and Timothy McVeigh).

    Regardless, he has been referencing the comment board from http://zoomdoggle.com/2009/02/reader-challenge-... . I, also, engaged in a similar hi-jacking of Adrian's posting on Jake's site. It did not good...however, if you'd like to read it, this guy's rationale makes for a GREAT lesson on how NOT to argue. It's pretty amusing.

    Also, the whole "Hispanics are white" argument is stemming from his own ignorance. Hispanics are (sometimes) classified as Caucasian in racial classifications. Whites are also classified as Caucasian. If we think back to our SAT logic puzzles, this does not mean that all Hispanics are white. However, in reading this guy's many diatribes, I doubt he took the time to view any of his information through a lens of critical thinking.

    Lastly, even though I swore I wouldn't respond anymore (apologies again to Adrian), I've read your little forums on the PressDemocrat (or as you like to call it the PressDemo"crap"...clever...), and (surprise surprise) none of them had an argument that was in any way more convincing the manure you've been spouting. All just more of the same. Good luck with your militia, sir. I'm sure I'll hear about you in the news (I'm sorry, the "liberal commie media") and I'll be able to say I knew you way back when...you know, BEFORE you got into a firefight with the FBI.
  • chris king · 10 months ago
    What a bunch of spinless pandering liberals. This guy stated to start a Militia to combat drug cartels. Are drug cartels a race? Now, there where 6000 drug related deaths along the Mexican Border last year. Children being kidnapped, woman and men beheaded. One kid had his heart injected with acid due to a failled ransom. You may think this guys actions are childesh, but racist?

    "We use the word Racist, not because it is true, but because it WORkS!" That the motto you fools live by?
  • Wilberforce · 10 months ago
    Mr. King,

    Shut your mouth. Get a job.
  • Not a Coward · 8 months ago
    Im sure you have a great deal of experience with the cartels wise guy this guy has the right idea. If it were Irish cartels they'd get run out too. You pussy, i suppose you prefer the effects of the gang wars over some hurt feelings wouldn't you. Your a disgrace..
  • Andrewr05 · 3 months ago
    I hope you are joking...

    What is wrong with forming a militia?
    It is the right of the citizens of the United States of America to form a militia and fight for our rights.

    How was he racist?

    How was he sexist?

    Are you fucking stupid?

    *sigh*

    Man the fuck up...